The name calling incident was a rude awakening, but things would unfortunately get worse from there. WBBM-TV - 630 N. McClurg Court, Near North Side, Chicago, Illinois, USA. Bill:Yes. Rigo:Yeah. Search the history of over 797 billion Rigo:Exactly, and he liked what they were doing with eugenics, and that admiration was actually mutual. All this stuff would arrive at my door, you know, and no other name, I just, you know, myself and but, but I was no- Nobody knew me. To me, it seems like he's trying to present himself as a reasonable, well spoken guy who's just asking questions, all in the name of academic curiosity, of course. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. Rigo:While some of The Pioneer Fund scientists like Shockley are public facing, the Pioneer itself liked to remain out of the spotlight. Quote, "On two points, I put The Thunderbolt ahead of much of the American press. I mean, it sort of falls under the category of yikes. The Pioneer paid for it, but the Harvard Educational Review published it. If you are concerned about the archival material presented here, or want to learn more about our ongoing work, please contact us at research@hagley.org. Commercials were cut during the broadcast. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Rigo:Even though his work was only in left leaning publications, the TV appearances were a big platform for Mehler to refute their ideas, but he says that might have been for nothing. Rigo:One of the things that I really appreciate is how he pivots from being funny to serious very quickly, like the humor gets people's attention, and then he sneaks in some truth. Rigo:Yeah. Barry:This kind of propaganda, and this kind of advocacy goes on for some time. Now, for better or worse, these are all facts. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. And it was a dramatic transformation. They distributed one of Hitler's propaganda films to American high schools with English subtitles. I would imagine that some opinions are changing as the war drags on. Remove constraint Subject: The Phil Donahue Show, American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT), International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE), East Coast FTM Group Organizational Records, International Foundation for Gender Education Publications and Documents, Newspaper and Periodical Clippings (1950-2000), Joseph A. Labadie Collection, University of Michigan, Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. This is another clip where Berry Mehler and J. P. Rushton are sitting next to each other debating. I'm curious about how you would respond to that. on September 9, 2018. In a 14 minute video mailers heard using profane language directed at both his students. And I wasn't just calling them Nazis, I was putting out a context to show that this was a fascist endeavor, and that these people were not only Neo Nazis, but they were just old fashioned Nazis, and I think that it was one of the reasons why they hated me so much. I mean, he was a Guggenheim Fellow, so this guy's very prestigious, and he's come to Donahue to mouth off theories about biological differences between racial groups. He sounds like a major player. Barry:The word pioneer has a real meaning to these people. Rigo:Yeah. Phil Donahue Show Transcripts | Wellcome Collection. Innate Themecomposed by Jonathan Pfeffer. So here is a guy who's wiling to take a stand for racism, and the Pioneer was willing to give him anything to help him spread that news. Lisa:I can only imagine what a book with that title is gonna be about. Lisa:Give me a taste of who we're talking about there. In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Rigo:Close. After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). Title of Larger Work The Phil Donahue Show Collection Title Collected Works of Milton Friedman Project records Guest Friedman, Milton (1912-2006) Host Donahue, Phil Publication Type(s) Interviews & TV Appearances. He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administrations motives. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4. Rigo:No. However, The Pioneer Fund and the Mankind Quarterly are not just any other source. Rigo:Okay, here's one. Yes, and then these checks were often for ample amounts in the thousands of dollars to people, uh, just because Draper or Pioneer liked what they were doing. I did the math, and it would be like, something like 160 million in today's money, so when I say his family was wealthy, I meant it, like their ancestral home was a castle in Scotland. This is taken from a "Classic Donahue" rerun in 1996. Lisa:Wickliffe Preston Draper. Find out all the details of his life But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. Respectable scientists and academics were promoting these ideas, which is why Draper starts making friends in high up places in the eugenics world, and he kind of finds an ideological soulmate in a man named Harry Laughlin. Rigo:Yeah. WebDonahue: With Phil Donahue, Sammy Davis Jr., Dolly Parton, Debby Boone. First, on the idea front. Rigo:Exactly. So, Lisa, I know that you've done some research on eugenics because we've done other episodes that touch on it. He left most of his money to The Pioneer Fund, much to the chagrin of his close family, and The Pioneer Fund handed out more money two years after his death than in the entire period of 1937 to 1972. Barry:Jerry Hirsch sued Roger Pearson, so we were able to get a deposition under oath, and I prepared a list for Jerry's attorney to simply ask, uh, Pearson, "Have you published under this name, this name, this name, this name?" Barry's Jewish identity was visible to everyone all the time. With Pioneer funding, he produced one of these strange extremist publication after another. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Lisa:No. Lisa:Oh, right. Web10 A.M., Phil Donahue, CH.5 Biographical Sketch of Ari Kane Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Expressing frustration over teaching in person during the pandemic of viewers sent me the video upset about the language, but a couple of Ferris state students stand by mailer. I, I think they hate him, which raises the question for me, you know, he might be this prestigious academic, but if he's not popular, if his ideas are this controversial, how does he keep having the platform that he has? Bottom line, Wickliffe Draper's money makes the journal possible. Bill:There is this long tradition of academic racism which Pioneer has continued. Find thousands of books, manuscripts, visual materials and unpublished archives from our collections, He openly endorsed it. Then I, I trust you believe there are others. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Rigo:They were very entangled. Rigo:So he thought of himself as being well bred, and of good stock. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. He uncovers dozens of academics with double lives. People were throwing money at him. Rigo:One way that the Mankind Quarterly differs from other journals is their use of pseudonyms, which I'm guessing is it not normal in academia? Barry Mehler on Donohue:I gave a press conference and he came to hear me and I gave a paper and afterwards we sat down for a cup of coffee together and he said, Barry, you made some excellent points, but this Neo Nazi business, I mean, I know these people, you talking about stand up guys. And I said, Phil, you're in a stand up. And since these race scientists all knew each other, the journal became kind of like an echo chamber, and they all praised and cited each other's work to give it the veneer of legitimate science. And I really don't think that that was a winning strategy. And here the relationship was reversed, in which Pioneer or Draper would contact these people and say, "Oh, I see you're doing things. The guy on the left is Philippe Rushton. They had to have two talking heads, and, and somebody had to speak for the other side for them to get their message out, and not only did I understand that, but I don't think that we run this. This We're not making progress here. It's giving these ideas air, right? Search the history of over 797 billion Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. James Moll conducted the interview on May 9, 2001 in New York, NY. Rigo:Exactly, and you know what comes next is that Drape becomes a cash cow for Laughlin's schemes. Family (2) Trade Mark (3) His deep, smooth, authoritative voice. He's even polished when he starts talking about things like sex. Be the first one to, The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976), Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Lisa:Oh my God, I'm afraid to ask, Rigo, but you're gonna tell me. VHS Collectors He went to rallies and talked to white supremacists. I was the only one really putting together these strands because I was reading the racist newspapers. And it's a label they pin on people and then you don't even attend to what the person said. Andhe said, I don't understand. WebPhil Donahue Show Transcripts (Transcripts), 1981-1982 Scope and Contents The Lectures, Speeches, Interviews series primarily consists of material related to the many lectures, It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. The publication of the book put The Pioneer Fund and Barry Mehler on the spotlight. Barry:I had to really refrain from, um, speculating on Phil Rushton's penis size, but here was a guy who, "They may have bigger penises, but I've got a bigger brain." So I want to take you back to the 1990s with this video that I found on YouTube. You know, for God's sakes, we're feeding them breakfast. Keepers of the Flameis Episode 3ofInnate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race,a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who 1 Donahue - Bob Mackie - 1988 45:40 2 Donahue - Female Impersonators - 1987 45:04 3 Donahue - Freaks - 1990 44:56 4 Donahue - Free To Be - 1988 27:23 5 Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Their desire is to have a platform to disseminate their ideas, and we would be giving them platform if we allow them to speak to here. As critics at the time put it, these were old racist ideas with a new coat of paint. Rigo:Why do you think that is? Lisa:I really take Mehler's point there. What Pearson had done was he brought together all of these fascist intellectuals, academics that had been orphaned by the war, and they needed a place to come together. Rigo:That guy went on to become the world's largest publisher of neo Nazi material in Canada. So they could see it. Digitized material in this online archive may document imagery or language that reflects racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive and harmful beliefs and actions in history. Barry:We had DEFCON levels at my house, levels of security. The opposite, in fact. Not only was the war not over, but the Nazis were still out to get my son. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America That's the question is, uh, who is funding Philippe Rushton? [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? Archival of Shockley:My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin. You'd, you'd just hope you didn't cross over with him on any committees. Rigo:They are still around. There's a load of absolute rubish. Barry:I really got under their skin. 5639 episodes The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, He was the first person to really call them out publicly. Instead, they used various combinations. WebPhil Donahue Show Date Created 1981-03-24 Summary Telecommunications Discussion Former owner MCI Communications Corporation Originator Luce Press Clippings Subject Just to give you an example of how this works, the journal Nature currently has an impact score of 40, and the Mankind Quarterly sits below one, but none of this mattered to the people in the Mankind Quarterly. WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. He was previously married to Marge Cooney. He wanted to understand their philosophy. He was in deep. His work inspired others like Bill Tucker to follow the money, and the thing that really stood out to me about Mehler's writing was that there was a sense of urgency. Okay. I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. You know? Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. You might get something, but raise that up to 25 million to a really public place where i- it's the same thing as w- wearing the kippah. Uh, you know, I, I don't need to be credited, and if you want to discredit me, they were always able to discredit me. And that's one of the things that The Pioneer Fund was able to do was to create outlets so that they could publish, they could review each other, they could support each other, and they could create this sense that this is a legitimate academic enterprise when, in fact, in the legitimate academic world, nobody was even aware that they existed. They would boo, they would hiss, they would clap for me, and then boo for him. And the thing he had to hide were 17citations that came from a little known journal called the Mankind Quarterly. Donahue - Phil Donahue : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Volume 90% 00:00 44:06 44:06 1 Donahue - 1972 - Gladys Knight 45:36 2 Bill:I figured, okay. You want to publish if you can in a journal with a higher impact score rather than a lower impact score. One is that they were enormously important to the racists because they legitimated their views, and especially after World War II, when the Nazis had been defeated, you had very little support for these kinds of ideas. Lisa:There's no resolution. And I thought, "Wow, this is terrific." Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. Who's funding him? He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? Their last known grant was in 2019 to an organization based in Ohio whose president has written extensively about racial differences. Lisa:So they really do move underground. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. So Cox, and Laughlin, and Draper all have a hand in this racist advocacy right up to the floor of, of the Senate, as well as over in Germany. I have a position at Ferris State University. And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". Lisa: Ah, charming. Rigo: This is a clip of the film itself translated in English. It was part of his insecurity, but the data for this was so stupid. If it is your nonprofit, add a problem on the Internet. Rigo:It's called The Pioneer Fund, and over the years, it has bankrolled dozens of race scientists and other academics who push these kind of views. WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo Use science to shield the race science. Lisa:Ah, the classic he who smelt it, dealt it maneuver. In 1936, Draper paid to reprint 1,000 copies of the book called White America to send to politicians. Lisa:Sorry, Rigo, we haven't gotten to the really crazy part yet? Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? Over the years, he was trying to show the world that there was a direct line from Nazis in World War II to race scientists like Philippe Rushton, and it all comes back to the funding source. In Silicon Valleys renegade days, a hardheaded Texan chased dreams of a flying car. Rigo:Yes, and here's an example of that. Barry:At the time, we had been getting a lot of death threats, and so And by the way, I wouldn't go to the police. Lisa:All pretty common accusations that anyone who is coming against neo Nazis, even today. Stuff was pouring off the presses from him. Senior Producer: Mariel Carr Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.ia.mp4, Donahue. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:This is the thing Dr. Mehler and all my opponents don't have to answer the intellectual argument.All they have to do is start throwing words around like Nazi and racist and fascist. Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. Barry: The Pioneer was looking for scholars who were willing to take a stand, and that's what Jensen was willing to do. Jensen was willing to take a stand, and he knew what he was doing. The more citations, the more funding, the more chances to become tenured. 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