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Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Is that a street car? Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. via Engine Swap Depot 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). Power will be greater with an LS swap. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. He is an electrical wizard. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Was real nice. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. haha, no worries! Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. When you find one, buy it. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. these are quite uncommon. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. Navigation Menu. You must log in or register to reply here. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Well, I am right with you. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . Learn how your comment data is processed. it isnt a direct swap. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. Wow, Thanks for all the info. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. How much power can you get out of the 16v? I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? Sweden for a dyno tune. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. ugh! The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. via Oppositelock. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Use it however you wish or block it off. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Removed the front bumper, upper radiator support, radiator, condenser, and engine harness. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. Bolt starter to transmission later. It's 80%. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. You must log in or register to reply here. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. engine alone. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. It barely sticks now when floored. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Learn how your comment data is processed. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? Maybe a steering unit from a w210? History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. . Swapped! A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! JavaScript is disabled. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. It was built for the track and drifting. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. Install without transmission. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. __________________. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. Yup, that's John's car. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. all that accumulated grease and oil. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. You are using an out of date browser. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. JavaScript is disabled. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. Learn how your comment data is processed. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. JavaScript is disabled. Originally Posted by Kestas. Learn how your comment data is processed. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. Connect common ground at intake manifold. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. Remove with transmission attached. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. What engine can fit into this car? Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. 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